TactiSMART 008: Brother, Can You Spare a Mag? How About Just 1 Drum?
"Just 1 drink"
--Caterina Murino's ill-fated, sexy villain's wife Solange to Daniel Craig's 007 in Casino Royale
Task Complexity Group Time-Lag aka GROUPLAG
100 men in ClusterFuck (CF) formation on Garritrooper, recently-mowed grass; Simon Says: remove your boots and hold them over your head with 1 hand
It takes me 30 seconds because I'm wearing U.S. ARMY BROWN, REEBOK side zip boots hahaha...
Laced boots takes me under 1 minute.
The Group CF: 10 minutes
Time-wasting inefficiency gets you killed in war--like being dependent on a steady supply of PReLoadEd Magazines (PRELMs). The more complex the task, the greater the GROUPLAG.
High I.Q. Russian and Chinese troops have--and still have--the manual dexterity to operate time-saving-by-not-needing-PRELMs, high firepower-volume-creating drums in their weapons; the former won WW1/2 and the latter hurt Americans badly in the Korean War with them. If "Bubba" (rural American) can figure out how to make drums work, don't knock Bubba--or a smart G.I. Joe.
The "Gun Jesus" in his video on the moron corpse Automatic Rifleman was AOK with the PMAG D60-round drum for MRS firepower.
Retention, Retention, Retention
This dangerous cavalier practice of dropping magazines as they are emptied in a firefight must stop. DO THE MATH. An infantry rifle company of over 100 men dropping all 7 plus of their magazines on the ground as they fire & maneuver from 1000 to 300 meters away--this is over 700 empty magazines spread all over Hell's half-acre. This is BS madness. A pallet of 5.56mm ammo has 48 crates each with 2x metal ammo cans with 840 rounds in stripper clips in bandoliers. 48 x 1680 = 80, 640 rounds of 5.56mm requiring 2, 688 x 30-round magazines. Is the U.S. ARMY supply system going to re-supply 2, 688 empty magazines to your rifle company/battalion/whatever in battle to load? @ $10 each this comes out to $26, 688--a Javelin ATGM used to cost $78, 000 each. TOW ATGMs were $4, 000 each back in the day and considered so costly we only got to shoot a few at the end of the year--and most of them were duds.
Our current AR15/M16/M4 family of shoulder weapons CANNOT BE STRIPPER CLIP LOADED (SCL) aka FED into them and must have pre-loaded magazines to work other than hand-loading 1 round-into-the-chamber-at-a-time, smart asses. If you have tossed away your magazines beginning your movement from the Final Coordination Line (FCL) to the Objective (OBJ) what are you going to use to reload stripper clip 5.56mm into if you have no magazines? It's unrealistic to expect retired Special Forces, MSG Karl Erickson's REMFs pre-loading 2, 688 (30-round) magazines that fit into cloth bandoliers to be the ammo resupply bundles you get.
The grabbing of an empty magazine and in the downward motion retaining it, letting go and grabbing a loaded magazine in the upward motion to reload does not take too many seconds to accomplish and with war practice, practice, practice instead of BS time-wasting garritrooper lawn & building care can be very, very fast--while setting oneself up for success soon afterwards for stripper clip (re) loading into the empties.
There are possible 4 x types of retention "homes" for your magazines (and drums):
1. The magazine pouches Mike Pence ehh, wence they came from
2. A carabiner/snap clip they can dummy carry cord to (see NOTES for a market survey of options)
3. A Dump Pouch
4. Dummy Cording aka lanyarding them to your LBE/body. A possibility is a very strong reel-in key chain thingee.
Snap Clip/Hook to Retain Pull/Carry-Loop Empty Magazines or a Drum; see NOTES for a market survey of options
Most AR15/M16/M4 double magazine pouches are limited to accepting 40-rounders--about the same size are ATI/Schmeisser plastic and SureFire metal 2x thickness 60-round magazines which are somewhat reliable--but expensive $50 to $130 each--the latter are used by SFOD-D aka CAG. However, 40- and 60-round magazines extend about 6 inches below the magazine well--too long for bipod-unsupported prone firing which instead demands a more compact DRUM that wraps rounds to conserve length be used as the 1st ammunition supply in the gun to start a firefight with maximum available rounds. The SF 60-round mag can have a G.I. Stripper Clip Guide (SCG) placed over it to load 10-round stripper clips into it--the Schmeisser 60-rounder I'm not sure.
Plastic ATI Schmeisser S60, a 60-round Magazine Full Review (He squeezed in 62 rounds using a $30 LULA loader!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GZ7WWokY6M
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50 round drum & A sweet 60 round mag filled with IMS green tips.
Fits nice, gets wider after leaving the mag well - Fits pretty nice for a 60 rd mag -
Bringing back the rack 😉
A bit bulkier compared to regular mag, but it’s twice the ammo count? So it’s to be expected!
Comparison to a regular 30 round magazine.
American Tactical has partnered with German arms manufacturer Schmeisser GmbH to exclusively import and distribute the Schmeisser S60 60 round AR-15 magazine. Made from glass reinforced polymer, this patent-pending magazine features a unique follower system that allows for double capacity from a normal AR magazine without being bulky or cumbersome. Designed to shoot both .223 REM & 5.56X45MM, the Schmeisser S60 will give you an instant capacity upgrade over the standard AR mag at an affordable price for your AR Carbine or Pistol.
Note:
The Schmeisser S60 was built specifically for .223REM or 5.56X45MM ammo only. Schmeisser & American Tactical have found that the S60 may not operate with all types of .300 Blackout ammo. Due to inconsistencies with different brands, Schmeisser does not recommend using 300 Blackout with this magazine. Failure for the magazine to operate with 300 Blackout is not covered by American Tactical's Limited Lifetime Warranty.
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The USMIL standard is 4 x mag MOLLE/PALS pouches on your Load Bearing Equipment (LBE)--your rifle-caliber-bullet-defeating, hard plate carrier means 8 plus 1 x 30-round mag in your AR15/M16/M4 aka your gun for 9 total mags and 270 total Ready-To-Fire (RTF) rounds.
Because the U.S. service rifle cannot stripper clip load directly into it, resupply in cloth bandoliers with cardboards holding 3 x 10-round 5.56mm on stripper clips are NOT RTF ammo. You should elastic cord a Stripper Clip Guide to your LBE to place over empty mags to reload them as fast as humanly possible.
YOUTUBER SensiblePrepper, Sootch00 has lots of great DIY Fx techniques to maximize your weapons & equipment. He is also a decent, non-egomaniac person sans the hipster neckbeard who is easy to listen to. He suggests using spray can Flex Seal black waterproof coating to improve the grip on the bottom of your magazines:
Flex Seal Survival Hacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGN4bXKgn1M
The problem is Flex Seal comes now only in BLACK which doesn't help your camouflage like if it instead came in TAN. Moreover, spraying a coating doesn't provide any structural help to hold a 550 cord pull/retention loop. However, you can solve all 3 problems with 100 mh/duct/duck and Multi-Cam McNett/GearAid CamoForm tape:
a. Camouflage
b. Grip
c. Pull/Retention Loop
550 Parachute Cord aka Paracord Pull/Retention Loop
Plastic Magazines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGgNJq-vTCM
1. Cut a 9" piece of 550 paracord
2. Remove its 7 inner strands.
3. Tie overhand knots on each gutted 550 paracord end
4. 100 mph or black duct aka duck tape the paracord so the knots are on the left/right side of the bottom of the mag at the TOP of the where the tape rests
5. Wrap Multi-Cam McNett/GearAid CamoForm tape around the mag bottom stopping at the point where the AR15/M16/M4 (or other weapon) magazine well would end when the magag is inserted. Test-insert a mag to ascertain where you must stop the Multi-Cam tape.
6. Seal the end of the Multi-Cam tape with a bead of glue and not just rely on tape-on-tape stickiness to keep from unraveling
Metal Magazines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO_3b2umSSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmcoyL01KgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGgNJq-vTCM
1. Cut a 9" piece of 550 paracord
2. Remove its 7 inner strands.
3. Tie overhand knots on each gutted 550 paracord end
4. Remove bottom metal floor plate and drape each gutted 550 paracord end's left & right knots are resting against the top of the follower spring so the plate only has to pass by the thin, gutted 550 paracord ends
5. Slide floor plate back into position moving past the two thin 550 paracord ends; pull the paracord pull/retention loop to make the knots rest tight against the bottom of the mag spring and floor plate
6. Wrap Multi-Cam McNett/GearAid CamoForm tape around the mag bottom stopping at the point where the AR15/M16/M4 (or other weapon) magazine well would end when the magag is inserted. Test-insert a mag to ascertain where you must stop the Multi-Cam tape.
7. Seal the end of the Multi-Cam tape with a bead of glue and not just rely on tape-on-tape stickiness to keep from unraveling
Both magazine types: number each magazine with your last name initial and sequentially 001, 002, 003 etc. using a SILVER Sharpie marker to stand-out on metallic gray or black plastic followers. SPARKS might be "SP" so you would number each magazine:
SP-001
SP-002
SP-003
SP-004 etc.
This way you can keep track of all your magazines and not lose them in the chaos of battle and in WAR PRACTICE identify ones that no longer function requiring repair or replacement. MSG Erickson's quick-test rule is insert the mag into your AR15/M16/M4 and press the mag release button and see if they fall freely though I do NOT advocate dropping your mags in combat--its just to see if they release easily--or not.
Start FireFights with the Maximum RTF Rounds Possible: "MaxRoundsStart" (MRS)
--MIKEL, JULY 10, 2012 AT 3:20 PM
In WW1 (or was this just the beginning round of 1 big world war?) German Stormtroops used 32-round snail drums in 9mm x 19mm Luger-firing P08 pistols with shoulder stocks to clear far-too-many Allied trenches with MaxRoundsStart (MRS) firepower, combat overmatch versus long, unwieldy-in-trenches and slow reloading, bolt-action rifles.
Forgotten Weapons: Sturmtruppen Firepower: The Artillery Luger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY7ILj0Kkjs
The U.S. Army must gain an reflex/night sight-improved similar capability by fielding UWS folding stocks for its new SIG SAUER P320/M17 pistols.
James Bond: Shoulder-Stock P320 9mm Pistol (M17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUJ0UPERfsk
Notice the MULTIPLE enemy rifle bullet hits on this WW2 Russian's HBA!
The Russian Army won WW2 by tank-infantry whose riders wore hard body armor plates (functionally akin to Roman Legion Segmenta Lorica body armor that could stop arrows) that could stop German Mauser K98 7.92mm x 57mm rifle rounds with in their hands PPsH-41, 7.62mm x 25mm Sub-Machine Guns (SMGs) firing from a 71-round drum. How important is getting a large ammunition supply drum? A war-winner!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPSh-41
Impetus for the development of the PPSh came partly from the Winter War against Finland, where the Finnish Army employed the Suomi KP/-31 submachine gun as a highly effective tool for close-quarter fighting in forests and built-up urban areas. Its 71-round drum magazine was later copied and adopted by the Soviets for their PPD-40 and PPSh-41 submachine guns.
After the German Army captured large numbers of the PPSh-41 during World War II, a program was instituted to convert the weapon to the standard German submachine gun cartridge – 9×19mm Parabellum. The Wehrmacht officially adopted the converted PPSh-41 as the "MP41(r)"; unconverted PPSh-41s were designated "MP717(r)" and supplied with 7.63×25mm Mauser ammunition (which is dimensionally identical to 7.62×25mm Tokarev, but slightly less powerful). German-language manuals for the use of captured PPShs were printed and distributed in the Wehrmacht.[25] In addition to barrel replacement, converted PPSh-41s also had a magazine adapter installed, allowing them to use MP-40 magazines. The less powerful 9mm round generally reduces the cyclic rate of fire down to 800 to 750 RPM. Modern aftermarket conversion kits based on the original Wehrmacht one also exist using a variety of magazines, including Sten mags. Some enthusiasts have been able to make them work with the original Soviet drum and stick magazines, eliminating the adapter, as well as use of the more powerful 9×23mm Winchester ammo.
The Soviet Union also experimented with the PPSh-41 in a close air support antipersonnel role, mounting dozens [88] of the submachine guns in forward fuselage racks on the Tu-2sh variant of the Tupolev Tu-2 bomber.[26] [EDITOR: drivers of our tanks should have VULTURE gun racks to shoot captured enemy weapons/ammo like M3 Stuart light tanks had but with U.S. machine guns.]
Multiple Drum-Fed, SMGs in this bomber's bomb-bay!
Though relatively inaccurate, the Chinese PPSh has a high rate-of-fire and was well-suited to the close-range firefights that typically occurred in that conflict, especially at night.[29] United Nations forces in defensive outposts or on patrol often had trouble returning a sufficient volume of fire when attacked by companies of infantry armed with the PPSh. Some U.S. infantry officers ranked the PPSh as the best combat weapon of the war: while lacking the accuracy of the U.S. M1 Garand and M1 carbine, it provided more firepower at short distances.[29] As infantry Captain (later General) Hal Moore, stated: "on full automatic it sprayed a lot of bullets and most of the killing in Korea was done at very close ranges and it was done quickly – a matter of who responded faster. In situations like that it outclassed and outgunned what we had. A close-in patrol fight was over very quickly and usually we lost because of it."[29] U.S. servicemen, however, felt that their M2 carbines were superior to the PPSh-41 at the typical engagement range of 100–150 meters.[30]
The PPSh drum magazine holds 71 rounds. In practice, misfeeding is likely to occur with more than about 65.[32] In addition to feed issues, the drum magazine is slower and more complicated to load with ammunition than the later 35-round box magazine that increasingly supplemented the drum after 1942. While holding fewer rounds, the box magazine does have the advantage of providing a superior hold for the supporting hand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP_40
At the outbreak of World War II, the majority of German Soldiers carried either Karabiner 98k [bolt-action] rifles or MP 40 [SMGs], both of which were regarded as the standard weapons of choice for an infantryman.[15]
However, later confrontations with Soviet troops such as the Battle of Stalingrad, where entire enemy units were armed with PPSh-41 submachine guns, the Germans found themselves out-gunned in short-range urban combat which caused a shift in their tactics, and by the end of the war the MP 40 and its derivatives were being issued to entire assault platoons on a limited basis.[16] Starting in 1943, the German military moved to replace both the Karabiner 98k rifle and MP 40 with the new, revolutionary StG 44.[16][15] [Assault Rifle] By the end of World War II in 1945, an estimated 1.1 million MP 40s had been produced of all variants.[17]
MP 40/I
The MP 40/I (sometimes erroneously called MP 40/II) was a modified version of the standard MP 40 with a dual side-by-side magazine holder (for a theoretical ammunition total of 64 rounds), designed for special operations troops on the Eastern Front to compensate for the enemies' PPSh-41 larger magazine capacity. However, the design proved unsuccessful due to weight and reliability issues.
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They began the firefight with all bets placed on winning it in the first 10 minutes. Without worrying about mag changes, the Stormtroops and Tank Riders could spray wherever they thought their enemies were and concentrate on finding/killing them off. The less mag changes, the less chance for the gun to jam. We must do the same.
The American G.I. should move-to-contact with the maximum RTF rounds like the Russian Tank Riders and implied as corrective action by our dear friend, the late LTG Moore---a DRUM--the single drum MWG 90-rounder, PMAG D60 and the ATI/Schmeisser or SureFire 60-round flat pancake magazines for post-initial-firefight reloading--IF the latter are proven reliable. Dual left/right drum types are smaller than single drums--but don't feed reliably and are disqualified from consideration. Generally speaking, a drum is more compact than a long box magaine so as to not prevent prone firing.
CAVEAT: This Old Guy Removes a KCI 100-Round, Dual-Drum CLEAN from-its-box and has RELIABLE FUNCTION--will it work if banged-up & Dirty? Shrug.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEdQpqEhy3c
This great Oleg Volk essay surveys current drum technology--its conclusion that they can be reliable is sound and backs-up (pun intended) our MRS concept that Soldiers should start firefights with a drum if they can.
https://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/reliability-drum-magazines/
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NORK 100-Round Helical AK-74 Assault Rifle Magazines?
NORK AK-74 Clone with 100+ 5.45mm Round Helical Magazine & Top-Folding Stock
https://armamentresearch.com/north-korean-helical-ak-magazines/
North Korean Helical AK Magazines
February 4, 2014
5.45 x 39, AK, AK-74, arms ID, DPRK, helical magazines, Kim Jong-un, North Korea, Type 88
By Oryx Blog Team
Several new developments in North Korean armaments can be witnessed amongst the recent flow of propaganda released by Pyongyang after Kim Jong-un’s ascension to power. One such development is what appears to be a new magazine model for the North Korean copy of the AK-74, the Type 88. This new magazine uses a staggered helix design, which allows for a high number of 5.45 x 39 mm cartridges to be carried without the notable increases in size and unwieldiness that characterise many other high capacity magazines.
Kim Jong-Il's Bodyguards with helical magazines
So far the only users of this helical magazine appear to be Kim Jong-un’s (and formerly Kim Jong-il’s) personal bodyguards. While in the picture above each bodyguard appears to be carrying only one magazine (which, given their high capacity, isn’t that surprising), other, earlier, footage shows a loadout of two spare magazines for each bodyguard, as seen below. The magazines appear to have been in service since 2010, and possibly earlier.
2x spare helical magazines in a pouch
The North Korean Type 88 is usually seen issued with standard 30-round magazines and, aside from the standard wooden or synthetic fixed stock, a side-folding or top-folding stock (pictured). Two notable distinctions differentiate the North Korean helical design from other helical magazines that have been developed. First, and perhaps most obviously, this magazines was developed for a larger, more powerful rifle calibre than existing designs. Existing helical magazines have typically been developed for pistol calibre weapons, with designs having been produced in calibres such as 7.62 x 25, 9 x 17SR (.380 ACP), 9 x 18, and 9 x 19 mm. Secondly, whereas other helical magazines have typically been developed in conjunction with the firearms intended to make use of them, the recent North Korean example was instead produced for use with an existing weapon, appearing to make use of the bayonet lug for mounting. The top-folding stock, another North Korean innovation, allows the stock to be folded with the magazine inserted, which would not be possible with typical side-folding or under-folding AK stocks. Both Russia and China have developed prototype helical magazines for AK pattern weapons, but these have not been documented in service.
The nature of the post-production design and the inherent complexity of helical magazines (when compared to a typical removable box magazines) suggest that while these magazines offer a greatly increased cartridge capacity, they may render the weapon more prone to malfunctions and misfires. It is unknown if similar magazines have been developed for other calibres, or to what extent the helical magazine has been integrated into the Korean People’s Army.
Magazine specifications
The following specifications are estimated based upon measurements extrapolated from known dimensions, as well as a comparison with existing helical magazines. They represent the author’s ‘best guess’ at present.
Calibre: 5.45 x 39 mm
Capacity: 100 to 150 cartridges
Weight: Approximately 2 kg
Length: Approximately 370 mm
Diameter: Approximately 85 mm
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Clever innovations by the NORKs!
This is BRILLIANT--MRS while not sticking out and ruining prone firing!
When will the West field similar 75-round helical mags for our AR15/M16/M4s ASAP?
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The failure of the FN Minimi M249 5.56mm Light Machine Gun (LMG) to both belt-feed and magazine-feed reliably is actually moot since 5.56mm simply doesn't suppress in open terrain deserts/mountains--this is why the Army is pushing for up-calibering everyone to 6.8mm in a case of deja-we-told-you-so from the 1930s. I'm of the mind to NOT WAIT for 6.8mm and immediately incorporate commercially-available, light 7.62mm x 51mm NATO machine guns with top-feed magazine loading capability (magazine length doesn't harm prone firing capabilities) like the fabulous Bren gun of WW2 had in every 9-man rifle squad's FireTeam as a mini-Base-of-Fire (mBOF). The new LMGs (I pain to use this term since the large 7.62mm cartridge usually results in a Medium-weight Machine Gun (MMG) if they are modular can retrofit into 6.8mm when/if it "arrives" in the Army supply "system" (word used loosely here).
combatreform.org/lightmachineguns.htm
However, desperate times demands former M249 LMGers use AR15/M16/M4s in 5.56mm on selective fire burst with the maximum RTF rounds of the MWG 90-rounder held in a SKEDCO Multi-Cam cover for camouflage and carry of its loader or the PMAG D60 drum/pouch. After beginning the firefight with 90 rounds probably from the prone firing position for maximum frontal area minimization, the ARman attaches the 90-round drum to his LBE with a loop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fda2pgbzqdM
...or a reel-in device's clip then releases it from his AR15/M16/M4 so it pulls up taut under his arm pit area or a GRIMLOCK clip. .
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Another initial firefight ammo supply candidate is the PMAG D60 mini-drum which can also be fired from the prone like the MWG 90-rounder and has a MOLLE/PALS pouch for its LBE carry/retention.
The MWG 90-rounder and/or PMAG D60 should become the MaxRoundsStart SOP for American infantry to be the modern-day equivalents of German Stormtruppen and Russian Tank-Riders.
ATI/Schmeisser plastic and SureFire metal 60-rounders are too long to fire from the prone without grip-bipod help and shouldn't be the initial firefight's in-the-gun, 1st ammo source--but should be in magazine pouches so only 4 are needed instead of the standard 8 x 30-round magazines--reducing the chances of a jam and providing maximum firepower for as long as possible between these less-frequent, mag changes.
200-Rounds, Full-Automatic Firing, Cavalier Magazine Drop Speed Tests
SureFire High Capacity AR Magazines - 60 & 100 Round Mags (Notice un-bipod-supported, prone firing difficult having to CANT the AR15/M16/M4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jgpPNqzH80
7 x 30-Round, G.I. Magazines (7 reloads)
37.51 seconds
2 x 100-Round SF Magazines (2 reloads)
18.5 seconds aka 1/2 the time compared to 7 x reloads
Working Hypothesis: Start with 1 x Drum, Reload with Double-Thickness Magazines Thereafter...
60/90 drum in the gun is good for 8 seconds of full-auto firing, 4 x 60-round magazines for 240 in the LBE totals to 300 to 330 RTF rounds. Just 4 x reload cycles instead of 8 x reloads cuts exposure time not-able-to-fire in 1/2.
The problem is reports are the metal SF 60-rounders are not reliable. Ugggh. Fortunately, reliability reports are so far positive for ATI/Schmeisser plastic 60-round magazines.
SUREFIRE 60 ROUND MAGAZINE FOLLOW-UP REVIEW: EPIC FAIL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mGDmA3bOJI
IF the ATI/Schmeisser plastic or SureFire metal 60-round magazine can be made reliable, it should be the new reload norm for all American USMIL AR15/M16/M4 users as they enter battle--replacing current 30-round magazines which should be re-purposed and maximized as pre-loaded, cloth bandolier resupply means by getting REMFs involved using the Erickson technique. This demands a grip-bipod be standard so the long 60-rounders have enough clearance for prone firing.
Grenadiers & Assault Shot Gunners (ASGers)
A trade-off for the ManeuverTeam Soldier with a AR15/M16/M4 combined with an Assault ShotGun (ASG) or M230 40mm Grenade Launcher (GL) underneath is not starting the firefight with the MWG 90-rounder or PMAG D60-rounder drum because a flat pancake magazine is needed to act as a pistol-like grip for these under-belly weapons. The maximum RTF initial firefight ammo source would be the ATI/Schmeisser or SureFire 60-round or an affordable 40-round magazine that can act as an ASG or GL firing grip and still be fired from the prone if vertical-clearance-helped by a grip-bipod at the trade-off cost of needing more time. I'm of the mind that the ATI/Schmeisser or SureFire 100-round magazine is too long to the MRS source because it cannot be fired from the prone even with long bipod leg help. The Grenadier and ASG's firefight-starting ATI/Schmeisser or SF 60- or a 40-rounder can be retained in either a mag pouch or clipped to the LBE. A deeper than usual, Dump Pouch would be needed for the longer 60- and 40-round mags to be retained and not fall out.
Other MaxRoundsStart Candidates
The Israeli Defense Force (IDF) has successfully used metal clips in combat for years to attach together 2 x U.S. G.I. 20 or 30-round aluminum magazines in a "V" shape that when one mag is emptied, you remove it and slide over the other loaded mag into the AR15/M16/M4 well. I tried plastic Lancer, PMAG and IMI magazines--but they are too fat to fit into the IDF metal dual clip. There is a Field eXpedient (Fx) technique to 100 mph tape together 2 x 30-round magazines with a spacer to make a "V" shape so one magazine can be inserted while the other is away from the ejection port.
https://www.sarcoinc.com/ar15-m16-jungle-clip-holder/
A triple bracket from Bushmaster I have works well even with differing mag types--though using 3 of the same type is best for uniformity of loading.
The Future is in Plastics
Clipping magazines together should be a capability molded into plastic STANAG magazines so up to 3x can be attached together like some Euro AR makers like SIG SAUER and HK have created. ALL future 30- and 40-round magazines should clip-together. I'm not sure if clipping 2 x ATI/Schmeisser or SureFire 60-rounders would work or not?
All future U.S. rifle and light machine gun must be able to be Stripper-Clip direct-Laded (SCL) in an emergency like the M14, Canadian FN FAL and SKS. The LMG's magazine RELIABLE feed should go into the top like the Bren or side like the FG42 and Johnson LMG to avoid interfering with prone firing. MaxRoundsStart capabilities from a compact 60-90 round drum that can be fired from the prone. 30- and 40-round resupply magazines should clip together.
All future U.S. rifles/LMGs should be modularly able to shoot 5.56mm, 6.8mm, 7.62mm Soviet and 7.62mm x 51 NATO rounds by changing a few components--wars are won or lost by maximizing friendly ammo capabilities vis-a-vis The Battle Against The Earth (TBATE) or The Battle Against Man (TBAM) and captured enemy ammunition in event friendly resupply doesn't arrive.
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Possible MRS Drum 550 Paracord Carry Loop-to-LBE Connectors?
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